Mine is somewhere in the local landfill site hopefully fulfilling some useful purpose such as a cozy place for some homeless mice or maybe a nest for vulture eggs. Leslie
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What's in your current meeting bag?
by nochoice inthanks again for the comments on the ipad in kh rules.
on a similar vein, i've been thinking of all the books i can leave behind once our kh blesses the ipad phenomenon.
in the meantime, this is what i have to lug in and why:.
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I hope you die...
by WatchTowerofBabel ini'm curious.
(true in both senses).
when i was a child i used to hope celebrities i liked (or wanted to boink) died before armageddon.
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Never wanted to personally "off" someone but did hope certain relatives would die so they could be resurrected. I haven't thought about this in years, this religion sure engendered some strange thinking. Leslie
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My JC coming up tomorrow for causing division Rom 16:17,18 - wish me well!
by Healthworker inhi, brothers and friends!.
would make me happy if you say a prayer or wish me good luck!.
been an exciting day, training with you guys before the rumble in the jungle tomorrow!.
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Wishing you all the best. Take a deep breath and stay calm when you respond. If nothing else at least you will be able to present your side and perhaps "sow some seeds" of doubt with one of them. Leslie
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How Suicidal Thoughts can take over your Life.
by Lady Lee inhow suicidal thoughts can take over your life.. i lived most of my life thinking about suicide.
i have clear memories when i was 8 years old thinking about what it would be like to die.
i went to sleep every night of my young childhood saying the prayer:.
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Lady Lee, Thank you for starting this topic. It takes courage to pour out one's life to others. This is a topic that must be brought into the open. There are so many of us who have walked in the shoes of feeling hopeless, in despair, and feeling like death is the only solution. If it helps even just one person to seek help and to realize that others have come through this, then it is worth it.
My first thoughts of suicide began at age 15. Tried and was unsuccessful. I experienced suicidal thoughts throughout my adult life. Had attempted but failed a few more times. After leaving the JW's I went through counselling and just let it all out, hiding nothing. I have to take medication to keep the brain chemicals balanced and will likely have to for the rest of my life. I now love life.
Fear of how it would look to the medical professionals and how it would reflect badly on the JW's, kept me from getting the needed treatment. I felt guilt and shame for not being happy. It compounded the depression because I felt like I must be doing something wrong if Jehovah's people were so happy and I wasn't. As I have mentioned in other posts, I am bi-polar, few manic episodes and fairly consistent depression.
I had a whole repertoire of methods thought up to facilitate my demise. I am grateful that I was not successful and now that I have experienced what it is like to be happy, I recognize immediately when things start to go south. I never want to get into the situation that Sizemik described so well "The dark room only seems to have one door when you're in it".
Keep up the good work LL. And, congrats on your relationship with your older daughter. Leslie
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Should "Irregulars" Have Psyc Evaluations?
by watson innow that we've found out that the murderer holt was an "irregular" we can all relax.
he wasn't a "regular" witness.
gawd, this reminds me of the witness attempt to assuage their guilt over the conti case, because he wasn't an elder...... .
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The WT. "spin cycle" is churning once again to try and polish its tarnished name. Thank you Blondie for the quote proving that this individual is still one of the flock by their own rules. -Leslie-
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JW Tragic murder was by JW
by snare&racket inhttp://www.katu.com/news/local/report-holt-heichel-were-members-of-same-church-175169201.html.
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how sad......
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What a bizzare twist to a horrible situation. It indicated that the murderer is also married. So this guy has now ruined even more lives. I feel sad for everyone involved, the victim's husband and both of their families, also the families of the perpetrator If found guilty, Holt will go to prison...and his wife if in JW's will not be free to divorce and remarry, so becomes another casualty in this tragedy. Wonder what made him snap. Leslie
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Advise Needed : Should I stay should I go ?
by raymond frantz ina year ago i started looking heavily into "apostate" websites ,now after a year i'm convinced that i have been lied to and kept in the dark for so long .i hate going to the meetings having to cope with these disgusting watchtower articles .unfortunatelly my family are still in wife and kids and i have raised them to be good witnesses .i feel betrayed by the watchtower and i'm sure if it wasn't for these evil men in brooklyn 99% of all witnesses that wake up would not have an issue changing all the wrong doctrines .these satanic men who dare call themselves "anointed " have spend almost 40 years, especially since they changed the baptismal vows and after raymond franz's exit ,creating a "prison of the mind" ,if anyone wants to leave they have to kiss goodbye friends ,family and start all over again .what shall i do stay in and try to work against them or leave?
any advice will be appreciated.
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So sorry that you have to face this choice. Only you can decide what is best in your given circumstances. I guess it depends a lot on how entrenched your wife is in the religion. The above suggestions are good. The last thing you want to do is to start attacking WT. doctrine. By asking questions in a non-confrontational manner you may be able to gauge just where your wife's loyalty will rest if you reveal your feelings about the JW's. Best of luck in your journey. -Leslie-
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Could you live with not talking to your JW family for the rest of your life?
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inone of greatest obstacles to leaving the organization is the destruction of the family unit.
as lady-lee wrote about oompa, i thought of this topic, the society says "this is their way to get wrong doing people to return to the loving arms of jehovah after they repent of their sins" .
i know of men and women who are in good standings and hate their fellow spiritual jw family, i am willing to bet, wager that "jw-hatred" exceeds the worlds hatred, something about a self-assured group versus the "not so self assured' creates one plucked up structure.
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At first it was difficult, almost went back so I could have my adult kids back in my life. I realized that to go back I would have to compromise my principles. I cannot abide hypocrits so there was no way I could return to the JW's once I knew TTATT. I think of my children once in awhile but no longer pine away for them. I figure by staying out (I'm Df'd) at least if they one day wake up they will have someone to reach out to. I have made "real" friends on the outside and do not miss any "conditional" friends that I knew from childhood. Life goes on. -Leslie-
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Please read
by JeffT inmy father passed around 9 this morning.
he'd been in poor health for some time, but it still comes as a shock to have him gone.
we are going to miss him terribly.
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Deepest sympathy Jeff on the passing of your father. What a wonderful legacy to have left for his family. Your father was a very special person. -Leslie-
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Witness Speak: the worst of collection
by grumblecakes inso we all know the jw vocabulary is a weird one.
what words or phrases bugged you the most?.
a few of mine:.
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Cautioning us to be aware of NOT STUMBLING others. Barf, heave. I have taken the liberty of adding a few more possibilities to the list.
BUMBLING (as the GB are bumbling idiots)
FUMBLING (as in fumbling around in the dark doing stuff you shouldn't, wink, wink)
GRUMBLING (not showing appreciation for noo lite)
HUMBLING (when you get re-adjusted in the back room)
MUMBLING (akin to grumbling, when you are caught muttering under your breath about how assinine the material presented was)
TUMBLING ( when they boot you out and you go head over heels with joy at finally being free of all the insanity of JW life)
Leslie